I’ve been thinking about this topic for a few months, ever since two of my favorite blog-friends coincidentally asked me about it.
You’ll see over on the sidebar, under “Basics,” that I refer to myself as a “Gay Mormon.” That’s a big oxymoron to many people, particularly conservative, faithful Mormons, which is, in a way, why I leave it there - to emphasize that people can indeed be both gay and Mormon (though admittedly not usually very peacefully - both in the church and within themselves).
But I am not really one of those “both” people anymore. There are far too few tenets of Mormonism to which I relate for me to still call myself Mormon in real life. When people ask, I always say I “used to be Mormon” or that I’m “LDX not LDS.”
But here at Zionide, I leave the label up anyway, both for the oxymoronic emphasis and because there are so many non-Utahns reading (of my 9,983 unique visitors in the last month, 287 were from Utah - about 3%). Why does that matter? To me, being Mormon is as much - if not more - a cultural thing than a religious thing. You current Mos and former Mos alike all know what I mean, even if you don’t want to admit it.
Below is the way-too-long email answer I sent to Sam when he asked. It’s very slightly abridged but still a sprawling, disjointed mess, so I apologize. I just didn’t don’t have the capacity to explain it any other way.
I’ve been thinking a lot about how to answer you, since I think Utah Mormon culture can be kind of a strange thing to understand if you haven’t grown up with it.I think that’s exactly the issue, really. Mormonism, especially in Utah, is not really religion. Or at least it’s not JUST religion. It’s a lifestyle and culture, probably somewhat similar to being Jewish, at least in my mind. Judaism with some really cult-like practices thrown in. No longer going to church or not believing in all that the church teaches doesn’t make you an ex-Mormon. There’s way too much invested for it to be that simple.
Because I’m a language geek, that’s how I’m going to try to explain it. I think you’ll understand what I’m trying to say, even if I do it poorly. Just remember that while I’m only specifically mentioning language here, the same truths apply pretty much across the board, to clothing, physical demeanor, politics, material possessions, and almost anything else.
Besides our flattened Southern drawl, known as “Utahnics,” there’s no longer a separate LDS language (the language of Deseret died in the late 1800s), but there is still a way of speaking that members can easily identify as “Mormon.” Whether it’s frequently used Mormon buzz-words (in church, we don’t preach from a pulpit, we “give talks,” as in “The Bishop assigned me a topic for my talk in church next Sunday”) or even an outlook on life that lends itself more naturally to a certain syntax (Mormons don’t have bad things happen to them. We are thankful for less-than-positive experiences that “give us the opportunity” to grow/appreciate/learn/etc.), Mormons talk in a distinct, very identifiable way. I know it sounds crazy and it’s tough to explain, but it’s true.
And after all those press conferences, you thought Elizabeth Smart’s father, Ed, just had a fondness for odd phrasing. Nope, it was Mormonspeak.
I don’t believe in many (if any) of the church’s teachings anymore. I never go to church. As I did this latest redesign, I did very seriously consider changing the site to read “ex-Mormon.” But because I still naturally, intrinsically respond to the church’s buzz-words, cultural buttons, and so on (and probably always will), I still think of myself as at least part Mormon. Even if you officially leave the membership rolls (which I haven’t even done yet), the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is not an easy thing to remove yourself from. Or, rather, the Church is not an easy thing to remove from yourself.
Why? Besides the cult-like lifestyle nuances, Mormon culture works to create pure faith in the church and its leaders. While no one will ever say this to you officially, individuality and thinking for yourself are undesirable traits. Mormons do what their leaders tell them, especially the church president, because he is, to them, a prophet of God, just like Moses. Given that belief, why wouldn’t they do as he says? Questioning Church authority is a big no-no. If you don’t understand something, don’t question it. Pray for understanding until you do. And if the understanding you get happens to counter what the church teaches, pray some more - and pray with faith this time. Since last time you obviously didn’t.
You’ve prayed hard enough, right enough, and faithfully enough when you get the “right” answer - the answer the Church was telling you all along. Kind of explains why reparative therapy is still popular among gay Mormons, as dismal as the results always are, doesn’t it?
There’s also the pure time commitment. Mormons go to church on Sunday for a minimum of 3 hours. We have “Family Home Evening” on Monday nights. On Tuesdays, women over 18 go to Homemaking night (now called “Enrichment”). Wednesday is Mutual (youth group) night for youth under 18. Thursday is nothing official, but many boy scout troops (Mormons are the single-largest denomination of Scouts in the country) meet on Thursday nights. On average, a faithful Mormon will spend 8-10 hours a week doing church-related activities. And that’s without a “calling.”
A calling is supposedly-divine revelation (through the bishop [local congregation leader, like a parish priest]) that you have been “called” to fill a certain role in your local church, whether it’s as a Sunday school teacher, scout leader, youth group pianist, whatever. You can turn down your calling, but like all non-conforming acts, this is quietly frowned upon.
Some of the calling jobs, like that of bishop or Relief Society (the women’s group) president, are 20-30 hour a week jobs. And they’re all volunteer. Everybody still has their day job to support their (large) family. Except many of the women, who are, of course, stay-at-home wives and mothers.
Anyway, my point is that with all this Mormonism all the time, it’s so much more than religion. It’s truly a culture with its own identifiers, class system, and so on. And leaving is as difficult as ignoring, say… your ethnic background, since it works the same way on a lifestyle level.
Now, before I get a thousand emails, particularly from still-faithful Mormons out there, please consider that this is just my personal experience and my observation of others’ experiences. Non-Utah Mormons, I’ve noticed, are much, much less “affected” than their Zion counterparts. And though the note above focused primarily on the negative, I do realize what great community-builders, humanitarians, citizens, and neighbors Mormons generally are. We’ll raise the property values in any neighborhood, despite the litter of children. Mormons are naturally community-oriented because of the unquestioning faith and other things I mentioned.
I just think giving up your individuality is a price too high to pay for that.
After reading my email, Sam got it right away. He said simply:
Rather than because of your beliefs, you identify as Mormon because of who you are and how you got to be that way.
Yep, pretty much.
Glad it took me eight long paragraphs to say what Sam said in one sentence.
*sigh*
November 16, 2005 at 2:26 am
I can identify with what has been written in this instance, I too consider myself as a “gay Mormon”. I stopped going to church actively at age 20 because it became to hard to participate in a faith that requires massive dedication to its lifestyle, and at the same time be gay. Having said that, I still have a strong link with my Mormon upbringing…it essentially shaped the person I am today. I feel for my umm.. gay, ex Mormon, Utahed friends! they truly are like the soldiers in the trenches…with no where to escape the lifestyle which comes with being a “Mormon” in a state with so much LDS history, culture and influence.
Aussie Lad.
November 16, 2005 at 9:36 am
Well done Nick. Beautifully explained and with thoughtfulness and compassion. A pity they couldn’t see that to harness it, their loss.
November 16, 2005 at 1:08 pm
Very interesting, Nick.
November 16, 2005 at 5:26 pm
I totally feel the same way about growing up Catholic.
November 16, 2005 at 6:55 pm
I just read that email the other day. Hm. Now I’ll have to pick your brain about something else!
November 16, 2005 at 10:50 pm
YES!
The phrase I use most often is “cultural Mormon.” The comparasin to Judaism is right on - only you can be “ethnic Jew” and “religious Jew” (technically not accurate, but that’s how many think of it) - and in Mormonism it’s more of a cultural/religious thing.
More of these cultural Mormonism traits include:
* faking your happiness (a friendly smile indicates a strong testimony)
* a certain reluctance to swear in front of strangers
* thinking of coffee (and other things) as “sinful” or inherently “bad”
* that old puritan work ethic - although I think this one is less prevalent than it once was
Anyway, nicely written.
November 17, 2005 at 2:28 am
I was just doing some blog-surfing and stumbled upon yours. . .
I’m an active LDS, so how can I not comment on this post? My purpose is not to offend you or anyone else, so I will try to be as tactful as possible. Plus, I see you have been tactful, too, so thanks.
I mainly just want to comment on the “questioning” thing. I would say that it’s fully allowed and encouraged in the LDS church. I have always been taught to think about everything! I grew up with the notion that if you do something or believe in something, think about why you do/believe in those things. It’s true that many people don’t think about why they do what they do, but that can be said for mormons and non-mormons alike. Why, for example, is alcohol bad? No LDS prophet ever said it was evil in and of itself. It’s bad because people generally do really stupid and hurtful things while under the influence of it. Besides that, I’d like to point out that the world spends billions and billions of dollars on alcohol products. Just think about how much food we could give to the starving people in the world if we didn’t spend so much money on alcohol production/consumption. But do you see what I’m doing? By thinking about it and analyzing why the Word of Wisdom was instituted, I’ve found my answer. I didn’t have to pray and pray and pray because I just thought about in my own head.
The problem is that a lot of people don’t think about things. But that’s not a part of mormon doctrine, that’s just a human failing. Lots of people don’t use their heads very wisely, and I think it’s incorrect and extremely damaging to say that it’s an exclusive characteristic of the LDS church.
Gordon B. Hinckley said to “be smart.” That includes studying, thinking, pondering. Each of those activities requires that the individual asks questions and explores.
There are, however, specific doctrines of the LDS church that make it what it is. So the chuch does set rules and boundaries, and as with anything else, if you don’t agree to abide by those rules and boundaries, you kindly decline to accept them. And as you know, the church allows for that as well — we all have agency.
As far as “being an individual” goes, I’m not quite sure what you mean. Do you mean that to be an individual, one has to be completely different from other people in every possible way? If that’s what “individual” means, I don’t think anyone fits that description exactly. In my life, I was just about the only girl in my high school who didn’t smoke, drink, and have sex. I don’t know how much more individual I could be.
What I’m trying to say, is that I respect your beliefs and opinions, but I wish you would speak about them as just that: your beliefs and opinions. You are talking about your personal LDS experiences as if they are part of LDS doctrine. And then people get the wrong idea about Latter-Day Saints and we’re back to square 1 — persecution. I expect you know a lot about that. I’m sorry that you were ever made to feel like you couldn’t explore the reasons for your previous beliefs, but that’s what happened to you.
September 9, 2006 at 3:49 am
I think of Gay Marriage as a sin.. I am not trying to offend all of you people that are gay, but in my own opinion, its a sin.. We all know that God Created Adam and Even not Adam and Steve. We can’t change the foundation of the Creation of our Heavenly Father. But just forgive me if i have offended anyone but i’m speaking out what is on my mind. I cannot say that I support Gay Marriage and I can’t also say I support. Its the right of the people but thats just a thought that is on my mind right now.
I respect everyone don’t matter what their background and their belief are, but I believe that if we love our Heavenly Father with our whole heart and mind we can follow his plan. I’m not a perfect person but i’m trying my best to be his follower.
I am very Happy to help and answer any question that comes up after this, but i know that by praying and keeping the commandments will make me a strong person. I love the Lds church and I have a strong testimony of the Gospel.
December 2, 2007 at 5:07 pm
Man!, Sis Mauigoa… you expect people to listen to you with all your buts in your post!
“I am not trying to offend all of you people that are gay, BUT in my own opinion, its a sin..”
“BUT just forgive me if i have offended anyone BUT i’m speaking out what is on my mind.”
“I cannot say that I support Gay Marriage and I can’t also say I support. Its the right of the people BUT thats just a thought that is on my mind right now.”
“I respect everyone don’t matter what their background and their belief are, BUT I believe that if we love our Heavenly Father…..”
“I’m not a perfect person BUT i’m trying my best to be his follower.”
“I am very Happy to help and answer any question that comes up after this, BUT i know that by praying and….”
You May Have A Strong Testimony Of The Gospel…, BUT I Think Your A Stuck Up Bull Headed Mormon With No Personal Opinion Or Thought Processes!